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		<title>By: Mneiae</title>
		<link>http://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/2009/07/save-money-at-college/comment-page-1/#comment-1450</link>
		<dc:creator>Mneiae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 04:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Courtney, although she was a little aggressive about her views. I&#039;m a college student myself, but my parents are paying my way through college. I also have merit scholarships that cover 82% of my tuition as well as my room and board. Unlike Dan, I&#039;ve had financial planning classes since I was 10. Perhaps that was a by-product of growing up in an affluent community in an excellent school system, but I am sure that college students are completely capable of managing their finances, given the correct incentive. It&#039;s hard to motivate someone who lives in the moment to save up, but if a college student is approached correctly, he or she will be happy to keep better track of their money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Courtney, although she was a little aggressive about her views. I&#8217;m a college student myself, but my parents are paying my way through college. I also have merit scholarships that cover 82% of my tuition as well as my room and board. Unlike Dan, I&#8217;ve had financial planning classes since I was 10. Perhaps that was a by-product of growing up in an affluent community in an excellent school system, but I am sure that college students are completely capable of managing their finances, given the correct incentive. It&#8217;s hard to motivate someone who lives in the moment to save up, but if a college student is approached correctly, he or she will be happy to keep better track of their money.</p>
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		<title>By: DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad.com</title>
		<link>http://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/2009/07/save-money-at-college/comment-page-1/#comment-1465</link>
		<dc:creator>DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! These days things are different . . . things come too easy and aren&#039;t fully appreciated.  College is no different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! These days things are different . . . things come too easy and aren&#8217;t fully appreciated.  College is no different.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s also another way to go to college.  The alternative route.  The road less traveled.  There&#039;s nothing wrong with it and I highly recommend it.

I spent nearly 6 years in the military right out of high school.  I got to travel all over the world on the military&#039;s dime, lived in two foreign countries, learned responsibility and developed a strong work ethic while I was young, plus I took advantage of FREE college courses for my basic education requirements.  When I finished with the military, I had enough in financial aid to finish my first 2 years of school without a single loan or a credit card.  I also worked 24 hours a week, in my career field.  Was it easy?  No way! I&#039;m telling you, it was exhausting and I was POOR!  I drove a beater Honda, ate a lot of soup, and shared a small rental house.   But the real world experience on my resume was invaluable, and after finishing my Associate&#039;s Degree, my continuing higher education was subsidized 50% by yet another employer.  I was limited to 2 classes a semester, but that was fine with me.  I accepted that limitation in exchange for the benefit.

I didn&#039;t finish my BS in Health Care Administration until I was 32, but I didn&#039;t suffer for it one bit.  I worked in my career field the entire time, made good money, got promotions, and was able to graduate without a single student loan or debt.

I am here to attest to the alternative route to a college education.  It&#039;s not for everyone, it may take longer, it may require a lot more effort, but it&#039;s quite possible for those who can bite the bullet.  There are still many employers out there that offer financial aid for college.  Take advantage of that offer if you can!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also another way to go to college.  The alternative route.  The road less traveled.  There&#8217;s nothing wrong with it and I highly recommend it.</p>
<p>I spent nearly 6 years in the military right out of high school.  I got to travel all over the world on the military&#8217;s dime, lived in two foreign countries, learned responsibility and developed a strong work ethic while I was young, plus I took advantage of FREE college courses for my basic education requirements.  When I finished with the military, I had enough in financial aid to finish my first 2 years of school without a single loan or a credit card.  I also worked 24 hours a week, in my career field.  Was it easy?  No way! I&#8217;m telling you, it was exhausting and I was POOR!  I drove a beater Honda, ate a lot of soup, and shared a small rental house.   But the real world experience on my resume was invaluable, and after finishing my Associate&#8217;s Degree, my continuing higher education was subsidized 50% by yet another employer.  I was limited to 2 classes a semester, but that was fine with me.  I accepted that limitation in exchange for the benefit.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t finish my BS in Health Care Administration until I was 32, but I didn&#8217;t suffer for it one bit.  I worked in my career field the entire time, made good money, got promotions, and was able to graduate without a single student loan or debt.</p>
<p>I am here to attest to the alternative route to a college education.  It&#8217;s not for everyone, it may take longer, it may require a lot more effort, but it&#8217;s quite possible for those who can bite the bullet.  There are still many employers out there that offer financial aid for college.  Take advantage of that offer if you can!</p>
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		<title>By: Marsha</title>
		<link>http://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/2009/07/save-money-at-college/comment-page-1/#comment-1459</link>
		<dc:creator>Marsha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your message but not with the facts in your presentation.

In particular, I think you are romanticizing the frugal student of yesteryear.  I went to college some forty years ago (yikes!), and almost NObody was working their way through school or taking on student loans.  Also, almost nobody took more than 4 years to graduate - unless they got sick or changed their major.

Today, it is much more acceptable to take more than 4 years to get a bachelor&#039;s degree, and therefore, more feasible and acceptable to work one&#039;s way through school.

I think student loans are OK for very expensive graduate degrees, but I don&#039;t see the need for them at the bachelor&#039;s level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your message but not with the facts in your presentation.</p>
<p>In particular, I think you are romanticizing the frugal student of yesteryear.  I went to college some forty years ago (yikes!), and almost NObody was working their way through school or taking on student loans.  Also, almost nobody took more than 4 years to graduate &#8211; unless they got sick or changed their major.</p>
<p>Today, it is much more acceptable to take more than 4 years to get a bachelor&#8217;s degree, and therefore, more feasible and acceptable to work one&#8217;s way through school.</p>
<p>I think student loans are OK for very expensive graduate degrees, but I don&#8217;t see the need for them at the bachelor&#8217;s level.</p>
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		<title>By: Dramon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dramon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note: not all colleges have cafeterias. Many have food courts which are as expensive if not more than going off campus. The real way for college students to save money is to cook themselves.  The bad news is that many residence halls do not allow this.

Living off campus is far cheaper in some cases because of the ability to cook meals.  But thanks for some other good ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note: not all colleges have cafeterias. Many have food courts which are as expensive if not more than going off campus. The real way for college students to save money is to cook themselves.  The bad news is that many residence halls do not allow this.</p>
<p>Living off campus is far cheaper in some cases because of the ability to cook meals.  But thanks for some other good ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Courtney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, the frugal student mooches off of other people&#039;s electricity and water bills, has no life or friends because he never leaves campus (except to do laundry...that he transports on his bike?), has no extracurricular activities to round out a resume, and can magically rearrange professors&#039; teaching schedules so that the last class he needs to finish his major is never offered the second semester of senior year?

Once again you&#039;ve managed to make a wide cohort of people fit into your little preconceived boxes. How about the NORMAL college student that graduates in 4 years, finishes with a 3.4 GPA instead of a 4.0 but has a rich and well-rounded experience that includes classes, extracurriculars, friends and activities outside the library or their dorm room, and divides their tuition between scholarships, grants, work-study and loans? Yes, they&#039;re probably tired on Monday morning (here&#039;s a hint - NO ONE gets enough sleep in college) but at least they have a balanced life to show for it all.

Also, perhaps some people are fortunate enough to be in the idyllic &quot;college town&quot; where you can walk or bike or take the bus to all your needs, but SOME of us went to college in a very rural area where, outside of the campus, there was pretty much nothing within a 10 mile radius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, the frugal student mooches off of other people&#8217;s electricity and water bills, has no life or friends because he never leaves campus (except to do laundry&#8230;that he transports on his bike?), has no extracurricular activities to round out a resume, and can magically rearrange professors&#8217; teaching schedules so that the last class he needs to finish his major is never offered the second semester of senior year?</p>
<p>Once again you&#8217;ve managed to make a wide cohort of people fit into your little preconceived boxes. How about the NORMAL college student that graduates in 4 years, finishes with a 3.4 GPA instead of a 4.0 but has a rich and well-rounded experience that includes classes, extracurriculars, friends and activities outside the library or their dorm room, and divides their tuition between scholarships, grants, work-study and loans? Yes, they&#8217;re probably tired on Monday morning (here&#8217;s a hint &#8211; NO ONE gets enough sleep in college) but at least they have a balanced life to show for it all.</p>
<p>Also, perhaps some people are fortunate enough to be in the idyllic &#8220;college town&#8221; where you can walk or bike or take the bus to all your needs, but SOME of us went to college in a very rural area where, outside of the campus, there was pretty much nothing within a 10 mile radius.</p>
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		<title>By: South Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>South Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that when you have to work while going to school, it makes you value your dollar more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that when you have to work while going to school, it makes you value your dollar more.</p>
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		<title>By: lizard</title>
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		<dc:creator>lizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest difference I see between this and my own college experience is in the entertainment/study area. We were generally pretty frugal, but we still made time for a lot of cheap fun. Board games, frisbee, eating at further dining halls together for food variety, video games on an older shared entertainment system. Maybe we wasted our tuition money a little by not studying quite so much, or maybe we preserved our sanity so we&#039;d actually stay and finish our degrees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest difference I see between this and my own college experience is in the entertainment/study area. We were generally pretty frugal, but we still made time for a lot of cheap fun. Board games, frisbee, eating at further dining halls together for food variety, video games on an older shared entertainment system. Maybe we wasted our tuition money a little by not studying quite so much, or maybe we preserved our sanity so we&#8217;d actually stay and finish our degrees.</p>
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		<title>By: Monroe on a Budget &#187; College frugal or college spendthrift?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monroe on a Budget &#187; College frugal or college spendthrift?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gather Little by Little has some observations about where some college students spend their money at College frugal or college spendthrift? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gather Little by Little has some observations about where some college students spend their money at College frugal or college spendthrift? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To follow up on what I just wrote, I reflect that it was truly amazing that my parents assumed that I was going to be able to maange my finances responsibly when I went off to school.  They never once discussed with me the importance of avoiding debt, in fact they encouraged it.  They never taught me how to develop and live on a budget, nor even tell me that it was important to do so.  In hindsight, it&#039;s really no wonder that now, 15 years after graduating, I am still paying for those youthful errors.  I was just a kid, and suddenly had responsibilities I was never trained to manage.

I reiterate my advice that parents should be heavily involved with thier children&#039;s finances for the first year or two at least in college.  They need to learn to do for themselves, but it is unfair to them to assume they will be able to do so successfully right off the bat.  As a consequense, they routinely develop habits which are self-destructive and get into debt which is crippling over their 20s and even 30s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To follow up on what I just wrote, I reflect that it was truly amazing that my parents assumed that I was going to be able to maange my finances responsibly when I went off to school.  They never once discussed with me the importance of avoiding debt, in fact they encouraged it.  They never taught me how to develop and live on a budget, nor even tell me that it was important to do so.  In hindsight, it&#8217;s really no wonder that now, 15 years after graduating, I am still paying for those youthful errors.  I was just a kid, and suddenly had responsibilities I was never trained to manage.</p>
<p>I reiterate my advice that parents should be heavily involved with thier children&#8217;s finances for the first year or two at least in college.  They need to learn to do for themselves, but it is unfair to them to assume they will be able to do so successfully right off the bat.  As a consequense, they routinely develop habits which are self-destructive and get into debt which is crippling over their 20s and even 30s.</p>
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