Comments on: Tipping – Getting out of hand? http://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/2008/11/tipping-getting-out-of-hand/ Proverbs 13:11 - "...he who gathers money little by little makes it grow." Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:29:01 +0000 hourly 1 By: hpy2bmehttp://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/2008/11/tipping-getting-out-of-hand/#comment-517271 hpy2bme Fri, 30 Dec 2011 06:18:21 +0000 http://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/?p=1174#comment-517271 What galls me is lousy service and a mandatory 18% tip already calculated on the bill. I recently went to a restaurant where there were about 12-15 diners at one long table and ONE (1) waitstaff for this many people - which is irresponsible and unrealistic to start off with. After waiting for 20 minutes for a cup of coffee, I had to get my own cream and spoon to stir it with. Even with the cream and sugar, it was awful. I ordered chili and when the meal came after nearly 30 minutes of further waiting, the orange grease on top and the stringy cheese spoke volumes. I wasn't going to tip for such a horrid dining experience but had no choice since the bill was a group bill with the tip already added in. I understand for large groups that the waitstaff works very hard and i'm the first one to tip min. 20% for adequate service, while acknowledging that not everyone shares my philosophy. My problem was having to tip for a really lousy experience with no recourse. What galls me is lousy service and a mandatory 18% tip already calculated on the bill. I recently went to a restaurant where there were about 12-15 diners at one long table and ONE (1) waitstaff for this many people – which is irresponsible and unrealistic to start off with. After waiting for 20 minutes for a cup of coffee, I had to get my own cream and spoon to stir it with. Even with the cream and sugar, it was awful. I ordered chili and when the meal came after nearly 30 minutes of further waiting, the orange grease on top and the stringy cheese spoke volumes. I wasn’t going to tip for such a horrid dining experience but had no choice since the bill was a group bill with the tip already added in. I understand for large groups that the waitstaff works very hard and i’m the first one to tip min. 20% for adequate service, while acknowledging that not everyone shares my philosophy. My problem was having to tip for a really lousy experience with no recourse.

]]> By: susi somebodyhttp://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/2008/11/tipping-getting-out-of-hand/#comment-516673 susi somebody Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:37:52 +0000 http://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/?p=1174#comment-516673 YAY for Bonnie.... I do the same. I will ask for a break down in change and then leave the absolute minimum with a note WHY I left the minimum.... give me bad change, you get bad tip. YAY for Bonnie…. I do the same. I will ask for a break down in change and then leave the absolute minimum with a note WHY I left the minimum…. give me bad change, you get bad tip.

]]> By: susi somebodyhttp://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/2008/11/tipping-getting-out-of-hand/#comment-516661 susi somebody Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:35:05 +0000 http://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/?p=1174#comment-516661 Oh, just so that you know, when I went in to get my hair cut, I had no idea that she had raised her prices from $35 to $50 within about 5 weeks. Oh, just so that you know, when I went in to get my hair cut, I had no idea that she had raised her prices from $35 to $50 within about 5 weeks.

]]> By: susi somebodyhttp://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/2008/11/tipping-getting-out-of-hand/#comment-516646 susi somebody Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:27:06 +0000 http://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/?p=1174#comment-516646 AMEN!!!!! I just went to get my hair cut - for $50 because she is a "master" - and got treated stiffly after the bill because I wouldn't TIP on a $50 haircut!!!! $50 for a haircut is enough> I shouldn't be expected to pay MORE than that!! $50!?!??!?! are you kidding me!??! and then tip on THAT!?! In my opinion, "you are doing your JOB". I never got tipped for doing my JOB. I did manual labor(owned a construction company)for people while they bitterly complained to my face, and I NEVER expected a tip above and beyond the price I quoted! I do not tip my Doctor for her services rendered, I do not tip my car service person, I do not tip the Nordstrom sales clerk; I WORKED for my pay, I am a COLLEGE educated person(with HONORS), and I never whined around for a tip. FURTHERMORE, I never got $50 for 30 mins of work, let alone +tip!!!!! AMEN!!!!! I just went to get my hair cut – for $50 because she is a “master” – and got treated stiffly after the bill because I wouldn’t TIP on a $50 haircut!!!! $50 for a haircut is enough> I shouldn’t be expected to pay MORE than that!!
$50!?!??!?! are you kidding me!??! and then tip on THAT!?! In my opinion, “you are doing your JOB”.
I never got tipped for doing my JOB. I did manual labor(owned a construction company)for people while they bitterly complained to my face, and I NEVER expected a tip above and beyond the price I quoted!
I do not tip my Doctor for her services rendered, I do not tip my car service person, I do not tip the Nordstrom sales clerk; I WORKED for my pay, I am a COLLEGE educated person(with HONORS), and I never whined around for a tip. FURTHERMORE, I never got $50 for 30 mins of work, let alone +tip!!!!!

]]> By: The Unofficial Christmas Tip List - Studenomicshttp://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/2008/11/tipping-getting-out-of-hand/#comment-8193 The Unofficial Christmas Tip List - Studenomics Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:11:53 +0000 http://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/?p=1174#comment-8193 [...] The Unofficial Christmas Tip List Dec.05, 2008 in Debt The reason this is the unofficial Christmas tip list is because I am 100% sure that I am going to miss a few people. Why? Because tipping these days is at the point where there is no limits in regards to who you must tip. The reason I have been thinking about all this tipping going on these days is because of an article at Gather Little by Little entitled Tipping- Getting out of hand? [...] [...] The Unofficial Christmas Tip List Dec.05, 2008 in Debt The reason this is the unofficial Christmas tip list is because I am 100% sure that I am going to miss a few people. Why? Because tipping these days is at the point where there is no limits in regards to who you must tip. The reason I have been thinking about all this tipping going on these days is because of an article at Gather Little by Little entitled Tipping- Getting out of hand? [...]

]]> By: Roger Hamiltonhttp://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/2008/11/tipping-getting-out-of-hand/#comment-8184 Roger Hamilton Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:57:04 +0000 http://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/?p=1174#comment-8184 Tip only what you want. Don't ever be forced to tip. Tip only what you want. Don’t ever be forced to tip.

]]> By: Erinhttp://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/2008/11/tipping-getting-out-of-hand/#comment-8192 Erin Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:13:12 +0000 http://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/?p=1174#comment-8192 I feel the same way about tipping -- it has become ubiquitous in our society, in areas where it is surely not necessary. Other than actual restaurant servers and pizza delivery folk, I tip very rarely. I've worked in burger shops and other places where you might see a tip jar. I definitely got paid enough. No, these people don't make a LOT of money, but it is an EASY JOB!! I did it for years, and it's easy! If it were incredibly taxing and difficult, the pay would be better. So no, they don't need tips. That's just greed. Save your tip for the person who goes waaay out of their way to help you, who gives extraordinary service. People who are just doing their job get paid for just that. They don't need tips. (I know I sound like a crotchety old git here -- I'm just 27.) I feel the same way about tipping — it has become ubiquitous in our society, in areas where it is surely not necessary. Other than actual restaurant servers and pizza delivery folk, I tip very rarely. I’ve worked in burger shops and other places where you might see a tip jar. I definitely got paid enough. No, these people don’t make a LOT of money, but it is an EASY JOB!! I did it for years, and it’s easy! If it were incredibly taxing and difficult, the pay would be better. So no, they don’t need tips. That’s just greed. Save your tip for the person who goes waaay out of their way to help you, who gives extraordinary service. People who are just doing their job get paid for just that. They don’t need tips.
(I know I sound like a crotchety old git here — I’m just 27.)

]]> By: Deanehttp://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/2008/11/tipping-getting-out-of-hand/#comment-8191 Deane Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:55:35 +0000 http://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/?p=1174#comment-8191 You know, the more I think about how much money I am giving away every month tipping, the more I am rethinking th eway I tip. 1st let me say, we eat out regularly, and I don't always tip the same. If I receive excellent service I will leave an excellent tip, if my glass never gets filled and my food is cool when it gets to the table, well after I talk to the manager I leave my 15% tip. But that is not the only place that we tip. My husband and 2 sons get their hair cut every other weekend. My husbands hair cut is $18, my sons are $12 each so $42 bucks right? No, my husbands leave an additional $5 for each hair dresser. So that $42 not cost me $57 for 3 minute hair cuts..... This alone cost me an additional $30 a month, for someone to do their job. You know, the more I think about how much money I am giving away every month tipping, the more I am rethinking th eway I tip.

1st let me say, we eat out regularly, and I don’t always tip the same. If I receive excellent service I will leave an excellent tip, if my glass never gets filled and my food is cool when it gets to the table, well after I talk to the manager I leave my 15% tip.

But that is not the only place that we tip. My husband and 2 sons get their hair cut every other weekend. My husbands hair cut is $18, my sons are $12 each so $42 bucks right? No, my husbands leave an additional $5 for each hair dresser. So that $42 not cost me $57 for 3 minute hair cuts…..
This alone cost me an additional $30 a month, for someone to do their job.

]]> By: Brucehttp://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/2008/11/tipping-getting-out-of-hand/#comment-8190 Bruce Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:02:59 +0000 http://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/?p=1174#comment-8190 An interesting discussion. I always tip wait staff well if they do good service. For them, I have a standard that if they are good, they get it, if they are poor, it will be less but not terribly small, and if they are exceptional, I tip more. Having known people in that industry I'm aware of their wage issues, the requirement to share the tip with other staff, and the assumption the IRS makes about the amount of tips they should earn. I also tip pizza delivery and taxi service. Actually I hate tipping as a standard. It was meant to be something extra for good service, but the greedy restaurant owners forced us into tipping. Now, of course, even restaurant owners who would prefer to pay real wages can't because of competition. It is a very vicious circle and as you point out we are being solicted left and right. An interesting discussion. I always tip wait staff well if they do good service. For them, I have a standard that if they are good, they get it, if they are poor, it will be less but not terribly small, and if they are exceptional, I tip more. Having known people in that industry I’m aware of their wage issues, the requirement to share the tip with other staff, and the assumption the IRS makes about the amount of tips they should earn. I also tip pizza delivery and taxi service.

Actually I hate tipping as a standard. It was meant to be something extra for good service, but the greedy restaurant owners forced us into tipping. Now, of course, even restaurant owners who would prefer to pay real wages can’t because of competition. It is a very vicious circle and as you point out we are being solicted left and right.

]]> By: Bobbiehttp://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/2008/11/tipping-getting-out-of-hand/#comment-8151 Bobbie Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:01:24 +0000 http://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/?p=1174#comment-8151 OOOh Bonnie, that would be annoying! Of course then, I don't like to be manipulated. I do tip, but I would like to see the attitudes of the servers changed so that again, it is for excellent service rendered and not something they will entitled to. OOOh Bonnie, that would be annoying! Of course then, I don’t like to be manipulated.
I do tip, but I would like to see the attitudes of the servers changed so that again, it is for excellent service rendered and not something they will entitled to.

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