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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t Feed the Alligators &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Feeding 8-23-2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t Feed the Alligators &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Feeding 8-23-2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] asks for reader input on whether money earmarked for college should be given in one lump sum or allocated over time.  Many argue that young adults are still [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stacey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to tax implications, you also need to consider the money&#039;s effect on financial aid.  Money kept in a student&#039;s name is considered &quot;college money&quot; in the eyes of FASFA - it counts against the grants they may be eligible for.  Parents are allowed to have more money before it counts against grants and other forms of aid.

I had a sizable sum from a car accident for college, which we put into an account in my mom&#039;s name. Each semester I sat down with my parents and discussed tuition costs, and she wrote a check. Any day-to-day expenses had to come from my job...  I argued about it then, but now I realize what a smart decision they made!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to tax implications, you also need to consider the money&#8217;s effect on financial aid.  Money kept in a student&#8217;s name is considered &#8220;college money&#8221; in the eyes of FASFA &#8211; it counts against the grants they may be eligible for.  Parents are allowed to have more money before it counts against grants and other forms of aid.</p>
<p>I had a sizable sum from a car accident for college, which we put into an account in my mom&#8217;s name. Each semester I sat down with my parents and discussed tuition costs, and she wrote a check. Any day-to-day expenses had to come from my job&#8230;  I argued about it then, but now I realize what a smart decision they made!</p>
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		<title>By: Steward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that having that much money up front would be a great way to introduce a teen or child in a very real and practical way to money management and financial planning.  While their brains may not be able to fully understand long term planning (as one commenter pointed out) that is what you are there for, to be their long-term thinking parent.  You can help them understand the different methods of investment - from CDs to bonds to equities to mattresses depending on the time horizon you have.  If the child is 9 or 10 you could probably put a small portion of the money into equities with the bulk of the money still in high yield CDs or savings accounts.  You might even want to use some of the money to help them start their own business.

That way you could help teach them a whole slew of money management   skills at the same time and still be helping them afford college.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that having that much money up front would be a great way to introduce a teen or child in a very real and practical way to money management and financial planning.  While their brains may not be able to fully understand long term planning (as one commenter pointed out) that is what you are there for, to be their long-term thinking parent.  You can help them understand the different methods of investment &#8211; from CDs to bonds to equities to mattresses depending on the time horizon you have.  If the child is 9 or 10 you could probably put a small portion of the money into equities with the bulk of the money still in high yield CDs or savings accounts.  You might even want to use some of the money to help them start their own business.</p>
<p>That way you could help teach them a whole slew of money management   skills at the same time and still be helping them afford college.</p>
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		<title>By: ThePassiveDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThePassiveDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great story from college.  I will also mention it was a Christian collge, so no bias on the public sector.  We had a group of guys that would travel to Las Vegas frequently and gamble.  Yes, I know what you are thinking, and yes it happens.  They also drink too:)  The parents of one of these boys, gave him tuition money for the entire year in his checking account.  Yep, you know what happened.  On one of these trips he got carried away and bought everyone a nice suite and flew everyone to Vegas because he was going to win big.  Well, he spent everything, and didn&#039;t come back the next semester.  How much did he lose?  Over $10k.

I could argue that students should be prepared before college and be educated to budget funds for books, food, tuition, medical.  I hope to teach my children the benefits of fiscal responsibility, tithing, budgeting, and saving.  Will it all stick?  I hope, but giving a child $10k upfront might be asking for trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great story from college.  I will also mention it was a Christian collge, so no bias on the public sector.  We had a group of guys that would travel to Las Vegas frequently and gamble.  Yes, I know what you are thinking, and yes it happens.  They also drink too:)  The parents of one of these boys, gave him tuition money for the entire year in his checking account.  Yep, you know what happened.  On one of these trips he got carried away and bought everyone a nice suite and flew everyone to Vegas because he was going to win big.  Well, he spent everything, and didn&#8217;t come back the next semester.  How much did he lose?  Over $10k.</p>
<p>I could argue that students should be prepared before college and be educated to budget funds for books, food, tuition, medical.  I hope to teach my children the benefits of fiscal responsibility, tithing, budgeting, and saving.  Will it all stick?  I hope, but giving a child $10k upfront might be asking for trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: MITBeta @ Don't Feed The Alligators</title>
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		<dc:creator>MITBeta @ Don't Feed The Alligators</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a lot of commentors here are putting the cart before the horse.  You&#039;re arguing that 18-22 year olds don&#039;t have good financial sense, therefore they should not be trusted with the money.  Why not ask instead why 18-22 year olds don&#039;t have good financial sense.  Sure, some of it has to do with actual brain immaturity, but a lot more of it has to do with lack of training and practice.

Attack the root of the problem first, rather than treating the symptoms and consequences of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a lot of commentors here are putting the cart before the horse.  You&#8217;re arguing that 18-22 year olds don&#8217;t have good financial sense, therefore they should not be trusted with the money.  Why not ask instead why 18-22 year olds don&#8217;t have good financial sense.  Sure, some of it has to do with actual brain immaturity, but a lot more of it has to do with lack of training and practice.</p>
<p>Attack the root of the problem first, rather than treating the symptoms and consequences of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would definetely allocate it. While my children are only 1 (almost 2) and 7 months we have already begun to discuss their future. We have debt we are paying off with the goal in mind of being able to put what we paid in debt into savings accounts for them every month within the next two years. We want them to be able to go to college for at least the first two years worry free of student loans and what not. I did not have that opportunity but I want my children to.

I would personally, thinking about it, allocate the funds by semester allott for enough to pay for that months financial burden for school and enough to secure the needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would definetely allocate it. While my children are only 1 (almost 2) and 7 months we have already begun to discuss their future. We have debt we are paying off with the goal in mind of being able to put what we paid in debt into savings accounts for them every month within the next two years. We want them to be able to go to college for at least the first two years worry free of student loans and what not. I did not have that opportunity but I want my children to.</p>
<p>I would personally, thinking about it, allocate the funds by semester allott for enough to pay for that months financial burden for school and enough to secure the needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My brother and I each have money direct-deposited into our accounts from our trust fund every month (our mom is notoriously bad at getting money to us quickly), and we&#039;re responsible for budgeting. To pay for this fall&#039;s tuition, I decided to not use my mom&#039;s credit card (for which there was a surcharge) and had the amount wired to my account, where I immediately paid my bill. (I have to admit, it was kind of awesome to have &quot;that much&quot; money in my account - my checking balance has never been so high! And probably won&#039;t be until I get a job in the real world.)

Truth is, if my brother and I had direct access to our money, we&#039;d probably have blown it. (He definitely would have - he&#039;s got some money-eating hobbies, and I just took up scuba diving!) As it is, this way, we learn to budget and keep track of where our money is going. (And I have to save up to buy scuba equipment :D)

My first roommate&#039;s parents gave each of their children a certain amount of money (I don&#039;t remember how much) to do, in what is as close to a quote as I can remember, &quot;get married, go to college, buy a Corvette, or whatever&quot; they wanted to do. Luckily, all their children are responsible, though my roomie DID buy a motorcycle (used, at least - and her mom told her it was too much bike for her!).

So it all depends on how well you think your kid(s) will do with oodles of money - though I personally vote for allocation, as I think 95% of the people who are heading off to college for the first time have their heads up their butts in regards to personal finance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My brother and I each have money direct-deposited into our accounts from our trust fund every month (our mom is notoriously bad at getting money to us quickly), and we&#8217;re responsible for budgeting. To pay for this fall&#8217;s tuition, I decided to not use my mom&#8217;s credit card (for which there was a surcharge) and had the amount wired to my account, where I immediately paid my bill. (I have to admit, it was kind of awesome to have &#8220;that much&#8221; money in my account &#8211; my checking balance has never been so high! And probably won&#8217;t be until I get a job in the real world.)</p>
<p>Truth is, if my brother and I had direct access to our money, we&#8217;d probably have blown it. (He definitely would have &#8211; he&#8217;s got some money-eating hobbies, and I just took up scuba diving!) As it is, this way, we learn to budget and keep track of where our money is going. (And I have to save up to buy scuba equipment <img src='http://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>My first roommate&#8217;s parents gave each of their children a certain amount of money (I don&#8217;t remember how much) to do, in what is as close to a quote as I can remember, &#8220;get married, go to college, buy a Corvette, or whatever&#8221; they wanted to do. Luckily, all their children are responsible, though my roomie DID buy a motorcycle (used, at least &#8211; and her mom told her it was too much bike for her!).</p>
<p>So it all depends on how well you think your kid(s) will do with oodles of money &#8211; though I personally vote for allocation, as I think 95% of the people who are heading off to college for the first time have their heads up their butts in regards to personal finance.</p>
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		<title>By: AnnMarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnnMarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be sure to look at the legal implications as well. Was this money given directly to the child? If so, depending on the laws in your state, you may have no right to withhold that money after a given age. (Technically, even before that age, you can only hold it in a joint or UGMA account.)

In the end, it&#039;s really what the kid can do, mixed a bit with the parents. My parents had my college savings (IE, anything I&#039;d saved while being a kid) in UGMA accounts. I never asked for control over them. I trusted my parents to handle them appropriately, and I was kept generally informed of their status. Dad paid my college bills and let me know what I was personally responsible for as well (IE, from summer jobs, and I always had a campus job). When I was way over the age of majority, Dad finally transferred them completely over to me. One, I actually asked him to keep until I got married (although the company was a bit putout when I said I was transferring it finally to my own name, and it was 8 years late; they still did it). [Yes, I did so well that some of my college savings paid for my wedding! Some more of it has never been touched and hovers around $8000 these days....] Anyway, my point is that I managed my money just fine, but left it in the hands of my parents to dole out appropriately for college. Mainly because it was easier--I didn&#039;t have to track the investments, and Dad just forwarded the annual statements to me for taxes.

On the other hand, my brother spent money like water. If he had had full control of all of his money, it would have been gone in a year, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be sure to look at the legal implications as well. Was this money given directly to the child? If so, depending on the laws in your state, you may have no right to withhold that money after a given age. (Technically, even before that age, you can only hold it in a joint or UGMA account.)</p>
<p>In the end, it&#8217;s really what the kid can do, mixed a bit with the parents. My parents had my college savings (IE, anything I&#8217;d saved while being a kid) in UGMA accounts. I never asked for control over them. I trusted my parents to handle them appropriately, and I was kept generally informed of their status. Dad paid my college bills and let me know what I was personally responsible for as well (IE, from summer jobs, and I always had a campus job). When I was way over the age of majority, Dad finally transferred them completely over to me. One, I actually asked him to keep until I got married (although the company was a bit putout when I said I was transferring it finally to my own name, and it was 8 years late; they still did it). [Yes, I did so well that some of my college savings paid for my wedding! Some more of it has never been touched and hovers around $8000 these days....] Anyway, my point is that I managed my money just fine, but left it in the hands of my parents to dole out appropriately for college. Mainly because it was easier&#8211;I didn&#8217;t have to track the investments, and Dad just forwarded the annual statements to me for taxes.</p>
<p>On the other hand, my brother spent money like water. If he had had full control of all of his money, it would have been gone in a year, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Frugal Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frugal Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am generally against pre-paid college tuition plans because they are usually a horrible rate of return when purchased years before students attend college. However, as a short-term solution, it might make sense to &quot;pre-pay&quot; tuition for the student directly and then allot any additional money at the beginning of each semester for books, housing, incidentals, etc.

I agree this is a tremendous blessing, and I&#039;d hate to see the money squandered when the return on a college education will pay dividends for years to come in terms of a higher salary, more employment opportunities, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am generally against pre-paid college tuition plans because they are usually a horrible rate of return when purchased years before students attend college. However, as a short-term solution, it might make sense to &#8220;pre-pay&#8221; tuition for the student directly and then allot any additional money at the beginning of each semester for books, housing, incidentals, etc.</p>
<p>I agree this is a tremendous blessing, and I&#8217;d hate to see the money squandered when the return on a college education will pay dividends for years to come in terms of a higher salary, more employment opportunities, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My stepdaughter was in an accident when she was younger and received a lot of money for college. She got $20,000 each year for five years, plus she had a huge amount in investments. Her first year, she lived at home, was working, and went to community college. She blew through the entire $10K that year, plus her entire earnings. On what? We don&#039;t really know--dumb things. One thing that really hurt her was that she had the money in savings, and whenever her checking account got down to $50, $200 would automatically transfer from savings to checking.

The next year, we tried to be smarter. She went away to school for the year. We allotted her a certain amount of money each month, we &quot;paid&quot; it into her checking account like a paycheck. She didn&#039;t work, she just went to school. And she really noticed this, she was calling to ask for more money all the time.

It was frustrating, we did that for two years until she decided that she didn&#039;t want to continue with school :(

I don&#039;t know how we could have done it differently, but for her--not having to work for her college education at all or contribute anything to it made her apathetic to college as a whole. She&#039;s now 22 and living off her investment money, supporting her deadbeat non-working boyfriend as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My stepdaughter was in an accident when she was younger and received a lot of money for college. She got $20,000 each year for five years, plus she had a huge amount in investments. Her first year, she lived at home, was working, and went to community college. She blew through the entire $10K that year, plus her entire earnings. On what? We don&#8217;t really know&#8211;dumb things. One thing that really hurt her was that she had the money in savings, and whenever her checking account got down to $50, $200 would automatically transfer from savings to checking.</p>
<p>The next year, we tried to be smarter. She went away to school for the year. We allotted her a certain amount of money each month, we &#8220;paid&#8221; it into her checking account like a paycheck. She didn&#8217;t work, she just went to school. And she really noticed this, she was calling to ask for more money all the time.</p>
<p>It was frustrating, we did that for two years until she decided that she didn&#8217;t want to continue with school <img src='http://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how we could have done it differently, but for her&#8211;not having to work for her college education at all or contribute anything to it made her apathetic to college as a whole. She&#8217;s now 22 and living off her investment money, supporting her deadbeat non-working boyfriend as well.</p>
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