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		<title>By: Should You Tithe When Times are Hard?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Should You Tithe When Times are Hard?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Make Friends, Earn Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Make Friends, Earn Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully believe in tithing and i think that God makes the other 90% go further. It&#039;s amazing just how bills and other things get paid just as well when we tithe despite having less available financially. I think it is a complete joy to tithe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully believe in tithing and i think that God makes the other 90% go further. It&#8217;s amazing just how bills and other things get paid just as well when we tithe despite having less available financially. I think it is a complete joy to tithe.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I struggled w/this like Sheryl.  And I agree w/her 2nd paragraph - I&#039;ve had that kind of experience A LOT.

We tithe a set amount each month (for easier budgeting) and give offerings (church children&#039;s home, homeless offering, mother&#039;s day offering, father&#039;s day offering, etc) when we have a little extra.  Any bonus, tax refund, or money that comes in that we didn&#039;t expect we IMMEDIATELY give 10% of the gross amount to the church and put the rest toward our debt.  I participate on church committees so I see exactly where our tithe is used.  When you are in a good church and &quot;see&quot; how God uses you and the members to help His people it is easier.  Once we are out of debt we will increase it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I struggled w/this like Sheryl.  And I agree w/her 2nd paragraph &#8211; I&#8217;ve had that kind of experience A LOT.</p>
<p>We tithe a set amount each month (for easier budgeting) and give offerings (church children&#8217;s home, homeless offering, mother&#8217;s day offering, father&#8217;s day offering, etc) when we have a little extra.  Any bonus, tax refund, or money that comes in that we didn&#8217;t expect we IMMEDIATELY give 10% of the gross amount to the church and put the rest toward our debt.  I participate on church committees so I see exactly where our tithe is used.  When you are in a good church and &#8220;see&#8221; how God uses you and the members to help His people it is easier.  Once we are out of debt we will increase it.</p>
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		<title>By: mattW</title>
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		<dc:creator>mattW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tithing was definitely established in the Old Testament and I don&#039;t think anywhere in the New testament it is suggested that it is overturned. In Luke 11:42 Jesus says  &quot;But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and herbs of all kinds, and neglect justice and the love of God; it is these you ought to have practised, without neglecting the others.&quot; I think the &#039;these things you ought to have practised&#039; makes it pretty clear that Jesus thinks they should have tithed. Considering Matt 5:20 suggests we are to exceed the righteousness of the Pharisees, and Jesus expected them to tithe then our choice is clear. If it is not 10% then the only other New Testament examples of giving are off 100% eg. the widow and the early church members in Acts.

I don&#039;t think there is anything from the OT that just &#039;ended&#039; in the NT, if anything the requirements were increased but with the empowering of the Holy spirit. Examples of this are OT sacrificing animals vs. NT sacrificing Jesus himself; OT do not murder vs. NT do not murder or hate, OT teach the law to your children vs NT make disciples of all nations. The NT is characterised by above and beyond what the OT required not because we have to but because of our thanksgiving for our undeserved reconciliation with God. If the Pharisees could give God 10% in the blind hope of God&#039;s mercy, how much easier is it for us to give that and more with such an assurance of the mercy of God in the cross. I wouldn&#039;t say we have to give because we don&#039;t have to do anything under grace. But knowing what Jesus has done and the OT mandate I can&#039;t not give!

I don&#039;t buy the financial give and you shall receive interpretation, that implies that you can earn blessing or that we actually deserve something out of our own efforts which doesn&#039;t fit with the Gospel imo. I think we received more than enough in Christ for us to give without expecting anything in return.

Sorry for the rant but I honestly don&#039;t see where the controversy lies. We can never use grace as an excuse to avoid righteousness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tithing was definitely established in the Old Testament and I don&#8217;t think anywhere in the New testament it is suggested that it is overturned. In Luke 11:42 Jesus says  &#8220;But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and herbs of all kinds, and neglect justice and the love of God; it is these you ought to have practised, without neglecting the others.&#8221; I think the &#8216;these things you ought to have practised&#8217; makes it pretty clear that Jesus thinks they should have tithed. Considering Matt 5:20 suggests we are to exceed the righteousness of the Pharisees, and Jesus expected them to tithe then our choice is clear. If it is not 10% then the only other New Testament examples of giving are off 100% eg. the widow and the early church members in Acts.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there is anything from the OT that just &#8216;ended&#8217; in the NT, if anything the requirements were increased but with the empowering of the Holy spirit. Examples of this are OT sacrificing animals vs. NT sacrificing Jesus himself; OT do not murder vs. NT do not murder or hate, OT teach the law to your children vs NT make disciples of all nations. The NT is characterised by above and beyond what the OT required not because we have to but because of our thanksgiving for our undeserved reconciliation with God. If the Pharisees could give God 10% in the blind hope of God&#8217;s mercy, how much easier is it for us to give that and more with such an assurance of the mercy of God in the cross. I wouldn&#8217;t say we have to give because we don&#8217;t have to do anything under grace. But knowing what Jesus has done and the OT mandate I can&#8217;t not give!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t buy the financial give and you shall receive interpretation, that implies that you can earn blessing or that we actually deserve something out of our own efforts which doesn&#8217;t fit with the Gospel imo. I think we received more than enough in Christ for us to give without expecting anything in return.</p>
<p>Sorry for the rant but I honestly don&#8217;t see where the controversy lies. We can never use grace as an excuse to avoid righteousness.</p>
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		<title>By: This Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>This Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we first started the Dave Ramsey plan in January 2006, we immediately began tithing the first of February to our church.  We gave 10% of our net income... I know there&#039;s an argument about net vs. gross and which one is correct, but we just give off the net income.

Since then, we moved to a smaller town and subsequently left that church in May 2007.   We have not found a new church we like yet, and so we havbe not been tithing either.

As soon as we find a church we like and enjoy attending, we plan on resuming the tithing.  Not sure where to give my tithe to in the meantime!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we first started the Dave Ramsey plan in January 2006, we immediately began tithing the first of February to our church.  We gave 10% of our net income&#8230; I know there&#8217;s an argument about net vs. gross and which one is correct, but we just give off the net income.</p>
<p>Since then, we moved to a smaller town and subsequently left that church in May 2007.   We have not found a new church we like yet, and so we havbe not been tithing either.</p>
<p>As soon as we find a church we like and enjoy attending, we plan on resuming the tithing.  Not sure where to give my tithe to in the meantime!</p>
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		<title>By: Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh to answer Sheryl - I give 10% of my net main income and I also volunteer a lot of my time so for me personally, I feel that covers the gross amount and any supplementary income (occasional babysitting and Army Reserves which is like the American National Guard).

Having said that, I&#039;ll probably donate 10% of my next tax return as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh to answer Sheryl &#8211; I give 10% of my net main income and I also volunteer a lot of my time so for me personally, I feel that covers the gross amount and any supplementary income (occasional babysitting and Army Reserves which is like the American National Guard).</p>
<p>Having said that, I&#8217;ll probably donate 10% of my next tax return as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Catholic and I give 10% of my income but just not to the church. Some of the causes I give to include The School of St Jude, a free school in Tanzania for extremely poor children; a secular organisation supporting homeless people under 25 in my home city; different causes that people do like Movember for prostate cancer or Shave for a Cure for lukeimia; I sponsor a child through World Vision; an environmental organisation and Callan Services for Persons with Diabilities in PNG (a Catholic organisation).

I list the names not to brag but to show how I give to organisations that work in fields I am passionate about helping like international aid, homelessness, education, cancer.

I do try to find Catholic organisations first but if I feel another denomination or non-secular organisation does the job better than my money goes to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Catholic and I give 10% of my income but just not to the church. Some of the causes I give to include The School of St Jude, a free school in Tanzania for extremely poor children; a secular organisation supporting homeless people under 25 in my home city; different causes that people do like Movember for prostate cancer or Shave for a Cure for lukeimia; I sponsor a child through World Vision; an environmental organisation and Callan Services for Persons with Diabilities in PNG (a Catholic organisation).</p>
<p>I list the names not to brag but to show how I give to organisations that work in fields I am passionate about helping like international aid, homelessness, education, cancer.</p>
<p>I do try to find Catholic organisations first but if I feel another denomination or non-secular organisation does the job better than my money goes to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely believe in contributing from my income. However, I believe tithe is somewhat of a misnomer. If you really look at tithing, they gave a tenth of everything! Mustard seeds, oil, etc. So if we were to truly tithe, we&#039;d need to give 10% of all we own, or at least it&#039;s value. I don&#039;t believe that God asked us to give to be a burden, but to keep us thinking about where it all comes from, and to benefit the Church.

We are supposed to give from the heart, not from out excess. I believe that it should be a sacrifice to give, not pain, but we should feel it. So my wife and I have agreed on an amount that we certainly feel, but that we can always give joyfully.

Just my 2 cents....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely believe in contributing from my income. However, I believe tithe is somewhat of a misnomer. If you really look at tithing, they gave a tenth of everything! Mustard seeds, oil, etc. So if we were to truly tithe, we&#8217;d need to give 10% of all we own, or at least it&#8217;s value. I don&#8217;t believe that God asked us to give to be a burden, but to keep us thinking about where it all comes from, and to benefit the Church.</p>
<p>We are supposed to give from the heart, not from out excess. I believe that it should be a sacrifice to give, not pain, but we should feel it. So my wife and I have agreed on an amount that we certainly feel, but that we can always give joyfully.</p>
<p>Just my 2 cents&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post - this is a subject I&#039;ve been thinking about a lot lately.

I&#039;ve got a 3 part series going on over at my blog about tithing right now -and whether or not it is a biblical mandate.  part 1 and 2 are live, as well as a guest post about tithing.

I tend to lean towards the thought that it is not a biblical mandate to give 10%, but that we are still supposed to give with a joyful heart, and that by our fruits we&#039;ll be known as followers of Christ. So I still think that we need to give what we can.  Often that will be even more than 10%.  I&#039;ll try to clarify this a bit more in my conclusion to the series..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post &#8211; this is a subject I&#8217;ve been thinking about a lot lately.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a 3 part series going on over at my blog about tithing right now -and whether or not it is a biblical mandate.  part 1 and 2 are live, as well as a guest post about tithing.</p>
<p>I tend to lean towards the thought that it is not a biblical mandate to give 10%, but that we are still supposed to give with a joyful heart, and that by our fruits we&#8217;ll be known as followers of Christ. So I still think that we need to give what we can.  Often that will be even more than 10%.  I&#8217;ll try to clarify this a bit more in my conclusion to the series..</p>
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		<title>By: glblguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>glblguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sheryl - That is a hotly debated topic.  I read quote that Larry Burkett quoted in one of his books &quot;That depends on if you want a net or gross blessing&quot;  :-)

Seriously, I believe it is what you are comfortable with.  10% is a guideline, and if you are ok with the amount you are giving, that is what&#039;s important.  God wants us to be a cheerful giver.

Your suggestion of tithing from the heart is dead on.  Remember the old lady who gave a single coin, and Jesus praised her for giving more than any of the others because she gave all that she had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sheryl &#8211; That is a hotly debated topic.  I read quote that Larry Burkett quoted in one of his books &#8220;That depends on if you want a net or gross blessing&#8221;  <img src='http://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously, I believe it is what you are comfortable with.  10% is a guideline, and if you are ok with the amount you are giving, that is what&#8217;s important.  God wants us to be a cheerful giver.</p>
<p>Your suggestion of tithing from the heart is dead on.  Remember the old lady who gave a single coin, and Jesus praised her for giving more than any of the others because she gave all that she had.</p>
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