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		<title>By: 25 Resources To Help You Get Through The Financial Crisis &#8212; Broke Grad Student</title>
		<link>http://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/2008/02/what-do-i-do-when-my-401k-is-losing-money/comment-page-1/#comment-4390</link>
		<dc:creator>25 Resources To Help You Get Through The Financial Crisis &#8212; Broke Grad Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gail Bankston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gail Bankston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
My 401k is down 17%!  I recently lost my job due to downsizing so nothing is being contributed to it.  Should I still leave it alone and hope for the best considering the economic climate now?  I am 55 years old and it&#039;s now valued under $2000.  (Yes I started late..)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
My 401k is down 17%!  I recently lost my job due to downsizing so nothing is being contributed to it.  Should I still leave it alone and hope for the best considering the economic climate now?  I am 55 years old and it&#8217;s now valued under $2000.  (Yes I started late..)</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve talked to numerous financial advisors and subscribe to a number of market related newsletters.

By-and-large, savvy investors and experts are pulling their money out without delay. Even 401-k&#039;s can be transferred to safe-havens within your selections of available funds.

From there you can continue your contributions, then you can jump back into the market when things seem to start to turn around.

As I was told you only loose money when you withdraw your money, not transferring it to safer alternatives.

I know, this is called market timing, but, if there was every a need to time the market now is it! I

In the regular day-to-day market during normal times market timing is not recommended, but this is self preservation.

This morning I read and article by a gentleman with a PHD in finance, he call the recent events the result of what&#039;s called a &quot;secular&quot; market and may take up to 15 years for a full recovery. Who has that many years to wait!

I for one have sat-tight and watched my retirement essentially disappear, I think doing nothing would be a great disservice to ones self.

When I get the green light, I&#039;ll transfer back to the same funds I had for the same amount or more than when I pulled them out and ride the wave back up.

Desperate times require desperate measures, market timing does not seem so risky at the moment...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve talked to numerous financial advisors and subscribe to a number of market related newsletters.</p>
<p>By-and-large, savvy investors and experts are pulling their money out without delay. Even 401-k&#8217;s can be transferred to safe-havens within your selections of available funds.</p>
<p>From there you can continue your contributions, then you can jump back into the market when things seem to start to turn around.</p>
<p>As I was told you only loose money when you withdraw your money, not transferring it to safer alternatives.</p>
<p>I know, this is called market timing, but, if there was every a need to time the market now is it! I</p>
<p>In the regular day-to-day market during normal times market timing is not recommended, but this is self preservation.</p>
<p>This morning I read and article by a gentleman with a PHD in finance, he call the recent events the result of what&#8217;s called a &#8220;secular&#8221; market and may take up to 15 years for a full recovery. Who has that many years to wait!</p>
<p>I for one have sat-tight and watched my retirement essentially disappear, I think doing nothing would be a great disservice to ones self.</p>
<p>When I get the green light, I&#8217;ll transfer back to the same funds I had for the same amount or more than when I pulled them out and ride the wave back up.</p>
<p>Desperate times require desperate measures, market timing does not seem so risky at the moment&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Err,

Dare I say I told you so? Advice such as this is outdated and quite simply wrong re-read my original post dated July 18th and ask who&#039;s advice you should have followed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Err,</p>
<p>Dare I say I told you so? Advice such as this is outdated and quite simply wrong re-read my original post dated July 18th and ask who&#8217;s advice you should have followed!</p>
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		<title>By: New grad</title>
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		<dc:creator>New grad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just started my 401k in Jan, and I have lost 10% so far. I think I might be better off if I put money in my saving/money market/CD instead. I don&#039;t trust those 401k administrators no more. They know we are losing money and they have done nothing at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just started my 401k in Jan, and I have lost 10% so far. I think I might be better off if I put money in my saving/money market/CD instead. I don&#8217;t trust those 401k administrators no more. They know we are losing money and they have done nothing at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 401k is definitely losing money and I really wasn&#039;t sure what to do!  Thanks for the great advice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 401k is definitely losing money and I really wasn&#8217;t sure what to do!  Thanks for the great advice!</p>
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		<title>By: glblguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>glblguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Richard - No problem and I didn&#039;t think you did.  Just didn&#039;t want anyone to be confused.  Your counterpoint is very valid and something people should consider.  Thanks for the well written and thoughtful comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Richard &#8211; No problem and I didn&#8217;t think you did.  Just didn&#8217;t want anyone to be confused.  Your counterpoint is very valid and something people should consider.  Thanks for the well written and thoughtful comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>glblguy

Sorry did not mean to imply that you did or did not for that matter, just that it is the typical advice given by such. I am merely offering a counterpoint based on my opinion and that of some others. While I am by no means saying that day trading ones 401k money is a good idea (actually one of the worst things you can do) It doesn&#039;t take a rocket scientist to see trends in the market and to limit ones exposure during these severe downward trends. I don&#039;t think anyone is predicting the US economy is going to turn around overnight and suddenly we have a great market again. In my opinion, I think we might see bottom at around 10,500 - 10,000 over the next quarter or two until it stabilizes and slowly makes a comeback. Granted this is merely a somewhat educated guess on my part so do as you will. But, Understand that as I said before it is your money and it is in your best interests too educatate yourself. While one can summize that over the long term you will still make money by leaving your money put and not changing your investements within your 401k (with the possible exception of a complete market crash), I counter with the fact that you can make much more by minimizing loss&#039;s in downward trends. Nobody is going to accurately predict the bottom nor the top but if you can catch it within 25% of each which really isn&#039;t that hard to do, you will find yourself in a much better position at retirement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>glblguy</p>
<p>Sorry did not mean to imply that you did or did not for that matter, just that it is the typical advice given by such. I am merely offering a counterpoint based on my opinion and that of some others. While I am by no means saying that day trading ones 401k money is a good idea (actually one of the worst things you can do) It doesn&#8217;t take a rocket scientist to see trends in the market and to limit ones exposure during these severe downward trends. I don&#8217;t think anyone is predicting the US economy is going to turn around overnight and suddenly we have a great market again. In my opinion, I think we might see bottom at around 10,500 &#8211; 10,000 over the next quarter or two until it stabilizes and slowly makes a comeback. Granted this is merely a somewhat educated guess on my part so do as you will. But, Understand that as I said before it is your money and it is in your best interests too educatate yourself. While one can summize that over the long term you will still make money by leaving your money put and not changing your investements within your 401k (with the possible exception of a complete market crash), I counter with the fact that you can make much more by minimizing loss&#8217;s in downward trends. Nobody is going to accurately predict the bottom nor the top but if you can catch it within 25% of each which really isn&#8217;t that hard to do, you will find yourself in a much better position at retirement.</p>
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		<title>By: glblguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>glblguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Richard - Just a point of clarification, I don&#039;t manage 401k accounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Richard &#8211; Just a point of clarification, I don&#8217;t manage 401k accounts.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advice such is this is typically posted by managers of 401k accounts. Problem with that is that typically the 401k administrators are more worried about there bottom line and not yours. The more you move around money within your 401k, the more it costs them and the less they make. If there profitability was in part dependent upon the perfromance of your 401k plan, guess then what there advice would be?!  Admittably on the surface the advice given makes sense based on market conditions in the past. However, in the last several years the market is an entirely different beast, and what held fast and true as good sound advice for many years, simply may not be the case now. Mortgage companies are failing, Banks are folding, energy prices are soaring and recession is knocking on our door. The advice this gentleman is giving you is the same advice given just prior to the great depression. While a 401k plan may eventually recover a huge market downturn over an extended period of time, that is no reason to accept losses now with the possible hope of making them back later. I pulled most of my 401 k money out of stocks and bonds at the 13,500 level and put them in stable assests until the volitale market soarts itself out. I would suggest most of you do the same with yours. This is not to say that you should not continue to buy stock heavy funds with current future investments (thus buying low), but watch there performance, and try to invesst in inflation proof funds (energy, exploration, commodities, precious metals). Do some research, pay attention to the markets, afterall it is YOUR MONEY!  I am sure Indy Mac told all of there customers that had over 100k in savings that they were just fine, not to worry. What does this mean to you? Quite simply people lie to benefit themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advice such is this is typically posted by managers of 401k accounts. Problem with that is that typically the 401k administrators are more worried about there bottom line and not yours. The more you move around money within your 401k, the more it costs them and the less they make. If there profitability was in part dependent upon the perfromance of your 401k plan, guess then what there advice would be?!  Admittably on the surface the advice given makes sense based on market conditions in the past. However, in the last several years the market is an entirely different beast, and what held fast and true as good sound advice for many years, simply may not be the case now. Mortgage companies are failing, Banks are folding, energy prices are soaring and recession is knocking on our door. The advice this gentleman is giving you is the same advice given just prior to the great depression. While a 401k plan may eventually recover a huge market downturn over an extended period of time, that is no reason to accept losses now with the possible hope of making them back later. I pulled most of my 401 k money out of stocks and bonds at the 13,500 level and put them in stable assests until the volitale market soarts itself out. I would suggest most of you do the same with yours. This is not to say that you should not continue to buy stock heavy funds with current future investments (thus buying low), but watch there performance, and try to invesst in inflation proof funds (energy, exploration, commodities, precious metals). Do some research, pay attention to the markets, afterall it is YOUR MONEY!  I am sure Indy Mac told all of there customers that had over 100k in savings that they were just fine, not to worry. What does this mean to you? Quite simply people lie to benefit themselves.</p>
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